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paul ii. it's not usual. he doesn't usually hold his weekly audiences like that, but this is the day before he resigns and, therefore, a little extra is going into this general audience. i'm here now with my colleagues at 4:45 a.m., that would be 10:45 a.m. here the pope starts to read and there will be other biblical readings. he will also have his greeting. and we'll wait to see whether in fact he puts a special farewell message into what is often planned readings for these particular days. we're still in lent. and as i'm here with john allen and jim bittermann, this is a special time not just because of the resignation of this pope, the first time in more than 600 years since 1450, but it is lent, that carries a whole different sort of significance of sacrifice and preparation for the catholic church's most significant holiday. >> that's right. lent is a period of penance and spiritual preparation for holy week. and ultimately his triumphant rising from the grave on easter sunday. and actua
paul ii. it's not usual. he doesn't usually hold his weekly audiences like that, but this is the day before he resigns and, therefore, a little extra is going into this general audience. i'm here now with my colleagues at 4:45 a.m., that would be 10:45 a.m. here the pope starts to read and there will be other biblical readings. he will also have his greeting. and we'll wait to see whether in fact he puts a special farewell message into what is often planned readings for these particular days....
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but with john paul ii, there years people thought any minute we have to plan for the future. they are talking about a short amount of time. maybe it will be just weeks before they have a new gathering of all of the cardinals in order to vote in a new pope. but all the maneuvering that had been going on before, all that kind of thing, there does not seem to be a front runner of the moment. it really is wide open. >> thank you very much for coming in. thank you. stay with us on bbc world news. more on our breaking news. pope benedict xvi is to resign at the end of the month. the official in charge of india 's massive religious festival has announced he will resign the day after a stampede killed at least 36 people. he said he took a moral responsibility for the deaths of which happened when a foot bridge collapsed at a railway station. most of the victims are said to be women. some 30 million programs have been bathing in the river. our correspondent is there. >> the streets are overflowing -- overflowing with people. hindu children trying to return home. you can see how it eve
but with john paul ii, there years people thought any minute we have to plan for the future. they are talking about a short amount of time. maybe it will be just weeks before they have a new gathering of all of the cardinals in order to vote in a new pope. but all the maneuvering that had been going on before, all that kind of thing, there does not seem to be a front runner of the moment. it really is wide open. >> thank you very much for coming in. thank you. stay with us on bbc world...
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will he be on the order of a john the xxiii, will it be a john paul ii who knew how to deal geo politically with the modern world in terms of poland and the communist world at the same time dealing with the internal problems of the church. and yet, we're also seeing ancient tradition here. as well as an ancient pope who was unable to perform as he had hoped. >> we see that final wave, it seems, from pope benedict and those who have been so close to him over the eight years of his papacy and the applause by, again, members of his household and he is giving them his blessing and you see on his right hand, the fisherman's ring, it is cast for each and every pope, and when they cease to be pope, as he will at 2:00 this afternoon eastern time, and you see that traditional kissing of the ring, it will be taken and a silver hammer will be taken to it and it will be destroyed because that is also the papal seal. so this extraordinary moment in history, using the former joseph ratzinger who will be within hours be pope emeritus, getting into the car for this short ride to the helipad leaving the gro
will he be on the order of a john the xxiii, will it be a john paul ii who knew how to deal geo politically with the modern world in terms of poland and the communist world at the same time dealing with the internal problems of the church. and yet, we're also seeing ancient tradition here. as well as an ancient pope who was unable to perform as he had hoped. >> we see that final wave, it seems, from pope benedict and those who have been so close to him over the eight years of his papacy...
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. >> as you mentioned, john paul ii changed the game with the language skill. now we take it for granted that the pope should speak seven or eight languages. this man here, joseph ratzinger, is also an extraordinary linguist. we've become accustomed to it with john paul and with benedict. now it's pretty much expected of him. i think that's right what liz said about him, the father quality of the pope. that's a great advantage to have. >> and as you also look at him -- and he looks like an 85-year-old man, and you realize the stress that must have been on him, certainly in the run-up to this and the decision that he finally decided to make. but just the wear and tear of preparing. we know that yesterday he had something of a down day. there's packing to be done. there are papers to be gone through. there are decisions to be made. and he will be going to castel gandolfo, which is the summer residence of the pope, where he will stay until a more permanent residence is finished. they have been doing renovations on the old monastery on the grounds of the vatican. h
. >> as you mentioned, john paul ii changed the game with the language skill. now we take it for granted that the pope should speak seven or eight languages. this man here, joseph ratzinger, is also an extraordinary linguist. we've become accustomed to it with john paul and with benedict. now it's pretty much expected of him. i think that's right what liz said about him, the father quality of the pope. that's a great advantage to have. >> and as you also look at him -- and he looks...
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john paul ii made a conscience decision to die in public. not to say look at me, look at me conforming myself to the passion and death and resurrection of jesus christ. benedict xvi has made a decision that the church needs something that he cannot give so he should get out of the way. he should retire into the background. that, as ann just indicated and liz mentioned and i mentioned and he mentioned, is another way to bear the cross of christ. and i think it was a very strikingly personal last statement to the church. i'm not leaving you. and thank you for not leaving me. >> we heard the loud applause there, the pope was delivering the message in spanish, the church has seen growth in latin america, seen growth in africa, leading to questions, father, about his success so, whether it could be someone who is from africa, from latin america, maybe even dare we say, north america. >> could well be. the church certainly has shifted, as you say, it's suffering in western europe, yet there are 61 cardinals from europe. the college of cardinals th
john paul ii made a conscience decision to die in public. not to say look at me, look at me conforming myself to the passion and death and resurrection of jesus christ. benedict xvi has made a decision that the church needs something that he cannot give so he should get out of the way. he should retire into the background. that, as ann just indicated and liz mentioned and i mentioned and he mentioned, is another way to bear the cross of christ. and i think it was a very strikingly personal last...
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paul ii. (audio difficulty) (audio difficulty) (audio difficulty) that region represents 42% of the 1.23 billion catholics around the world. >>> pope benedict was inaugurated in 2005 and for the first time in recent history the leader of the catholic church is leaving while he is still alive. stacey cohen has been following the story since it broke early this morning. she is joining us live now from northwest washington with more information, clearly, clearly, this is a shock to all of his followers. what are you hearing? >> reporter: well j.c., it has been a shock not only to the 1.2 billion catholics worldwide but to noncatholics alike. when you think this is something that hasn't taken place since the 1400s, when a pope resigned for entirely different reasons, i mean it is clearly unexpected. although he has been ill for the past year or so, and there was some speculation that perhaps he might step down, many didn't think it was a reality. he was 5 years old, older now than when his predece
paul ii. (audio difficulty) (audio difficulty) (audio difficulty) that region represents 42% of the 1.23 billion catholics around the world. >>> pope benedict was inaugurated in 2005 and for the first time in recent history the leader of the catholic church is leaving while he is still alive. stacey cohen has been following the story since it broke early this morning. she is joining us live now from northwest washington with more information, clearly, clearly, this is a shock to all of...
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although, many of us remember the pictures of john paul -- pope john paul ii who was extremely old and ill when he died. the supposition here is that pope benedict doesn't want to see himself in the same position we saw pope john paul ii. there may be some reasons regarding pope benedict's health that we are aware of at this time. but certainly we have seen it pulled benedick grow increasingly tired -- pope benedick xvi grow increasingly tired. we have seen him use a way of moving up the basilica of a moving platform because he was too tired during those ceremonies to actually walk down the i yelled up to the altar. -- down the aise up to the altar. these all decisions that were taken not to tire the pope particularly over christmas. which is one of the busiest times in the pope's schedule. easter is coming up and that is also a very busy time for pope benedict. he has obviously decided this is too much of a heavy schedule for him. and he will in fact resign, as a said, on february 28. it remains to be seen what may happen after that and who will be pulled for the very important easter
although, many of us remember the pictures of john paul -- pope john paul ii who was extremely old and ill when he died. the supposition here is that pope benedict doesn't want to see himself in the same position we saw pope john paul ii. there may be some reasons regarding pope benedict's health that we are aware of at this time. but certainly we have seen it pulled benedick grow increasingly tired -- pope benedick xvi grow increasingly tired. we have seen him use a way of moving up the...
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not a charismatic pope like john paul ii. not this person who really had this cult following like a rock star and who created a rock papacy. and pope benedict had a hard act to follow. but today, a man who doesn't usually wear his heart on his sleeve did to an extent. you could see the emotion. you could see that he was struggling not just with what he said was the joy of his ministry and of his papacy, but also the difficulty and the struggles he hadiya pendleton. particularly he talked about the choppy waters, and of course referring to the problems that have rocked the catholic church. the frightful sex abuse scandal that erupted first in the u.s. and then came here under his papacy. his attempts to deal with it. but not having finished the job, and people wanting to clean house and to move on from this thing that has so damaged the church. >> let me ask you to put on your global affairs anchor hat. for catholics, obviously this is an important moment. a beautiful moment in many ways. for non-catholics around the world, wh
not a charismatic pope like john paul ii. not this person who really had this cult following like a rock star and who created a rock papacy. and pope benedict had a hard act to follow. but today, a man who doesn't usually wear his heart on his sleeve did to an extent. you could see the emotion. you could see that he was struggling not just with what he said was the joy of his ministry and of his papacy, but also the difficulty and the struggles he hadiya pendleton. particularly he talked about...
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he asked pope john paul ii, once not if twice, if he could retire and john paul ii would not let him do that. he wanted to go back to bavaria and live with his brother. he wanted to go back to what he loves which is reading and writing. john paul said no, i need you here. pope john paul ii died and then he became pope. benedict is a far shyer man, he's a gentle man, he's far more than intellectual. he never sucked in the oxygen of the crowd. he at times, ren sant. since he announced his abdication, i have been struck by how much he relieved he looks. he actually ad lib when he got up there. when i looked at his prepared text. heed a lib an aline, people say that the church is declining but i see the church as alive, because that crowd was filled with enthusiasm and energy yesterday. you know, you have seen when he met with some priests here in rome about a week ago, he was supposed to deliver a speech about the second vatican -- vatican ii, he was there at the time, that happened 50 years ago. he said no, i can't do that because of my advanced age. 85 has become his excuse to be more
he asked pope john paul ii, once not if twice, if he could retire and john paul ii would not let him do that. he wanted to go back to bavaria and live with his brother. he wanted to go back to what he loves which is reading and writing. john paul said no, i need you here. pope john paul ii died and then he became pope. benedict is a far shyer man, he's a gentle man, he's far more than intellectual. he never sucked in the oxygen of the crowd. he at times, ren sant. since he announced his...
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when we were here in 2005, for the death of john paul ii, we had been hearing for years about child sex abuse. for a long time they thought it was just an american problem that was fuel bid the american media. you have seen a great change in attitude, i think from 2005 to 2013. they know there are problems in the church, they know they must be addressed and you can't just blame it on the media anymore. they have to take responsibility because they are losing particularly in western europe, an the u.s., they are losing the core of their church and they need to get it back and they need to find a man who can communicate to the younger generation, i spoke to cardinal donald whirl yesterday as the archbishop of washington, d.c., who said we need to find someone who can package our message, repackage our message to make it resonate with younger catholics today and that's going to be a big challenge. >> pope benedict has spoken just yesterday about the difficulties. he said there were many good days of sunshine, but stormy waters sometimes as if god were sleeping and certainly the sex abuse c
when we were here in 2005, for the death of john paul ii, we had been hearing for years about child sex abuse. for a long time they thought it was just an american problem that was fuel bid the american media. you have seen a great change in attitude, i think from 2005 to 2013. they know there are problems in the church, they know they must be addressed and you can't just blame it on the media anymore. they have to take responsibility because they are losing particularly in western europe, an...
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there he reminds you very much of john paul ii. he's also a salpesian. so he's very involved in education. he knows in latin america world. an impressive man with a wide-ranging experience and a very fine mine mind. so ouellet is a major player, i would say. >> there is some speculation, as well, about cardinal timothy dolan from new york. now, he's a very new cardinal, but he has a way about him that a lot of people find very engaging, in a time when, of course, a lot of people believe the church needs to reengage, the way pope john paul ii did. what do you think the realistic chances are for cardinal dolan? >> i think realistically, they're slim. i'm a big dolan fan. he catches that spirit, you know, of john paul ii, the outreach to the wider world. i think in himself, he's an extraordinary strong candidate. i think his being an american would tell very much against him. i doubt they'd give the papacy to, you know, an american that the lone superpower in the world. but, you know, he's an impressive character. and i think he would bring an awful lot to
there he reminds you very much of john paul ii. he's also a salpesian. so he's very involved in education. he knows in latin america world. an impressive man with a wide-ranging experience and a very fine mine mind. so ouellet is a major player, i would say. >> there is some speculation, as well, about cardinal timothy dolan from new york. now, he's a very new cardinal, but he has a way about him that a lot of people find very engaging, in a time when, of course, a lot of people believe...
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it was as a traditionalist that he became the doctrinal watchdog for john paul ii. the people who met the pope said that he was shy and charming. his most important writings dealt with things such as the importance of love. >> he is the most intelligent, intelligent,pope we have had in years. his sermons and harmonies are beautiful. >> he warned that excluding christianity from national debate could be harmful for democracy. by the time pope benedict came to westminster cathedral, he renewed respect for his argument that religion should stay at the heart of public life. over the last few years, catholicism has grown in the developing world. in its birthplace of europe, he has found the tides of secularism, all but impossible to stem. the pope defended moslems by quoting historical criticisms of it is lomb. -- islam. he has faced criticism over the handling of the sexual abuse crisis. he has been accused of doing too little to prevent abuse by priests. >> there is a suspicion that they were being shielded by j.p. ii rather than by him. >> he hoped he could build up a
it was as a traditionalist that he became the doctrinal watchdog for john paul ii. the people who met the pope said that he was shy and charming. his most important writings dealt with things such as the importance of love. >> he is the most intelligent, intelligent,pope we have had in years. his sermons and harmonies are beautiful. >> he warned that excluding christianity from national debate could be harmful for democracy. by the time pope benedict came to westminster cathedral,...
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and john paul ii wanted him in rome. little did he know after john paul died he would be elected pope. that's been his exterior. he said, yes. he was faithful to the pope on that and faithful to the cardinals when they chose him as pope. >> the executive vice-president at fox, wrote an op-ed, and let me quote the beginning. he never had chance. from the moment he appeared on the balcony of st. peters to greet the featherful. ben ticket xvi faced insurmountable problems. he was not john paul ii. john paul was such an immense figure. is that a fair point mr. moody is making? >> well, i think it is a fair point. i have nothing but the greatest admiration for john, and i think pope benedict knew that. what comes through about pope benedict is the humility in one interview he gave, long book interview, where he mentioned the possibility of resigning but he said i'm convinced there are great popes and small popes, and he was talking about john paul ii as a great pope, and himself as small pope, which is also strange because he
and john paul ii wanted him in rome. little did he know after john paul died he would be elected pope. that's been his exterior. he said, yes. he was faithful to the pope on that and faithful to the cardinals when they chose him as pope. >> the executive vice-president at fox, wrote an op-ed, and let me quote the beginning. he never had chance. from the moment he appeared on the balcony of st. peters to greet the featherful. ben ticket xvi faced insurmountable problems. he was not john...
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>> well, i think he sees the papacy very much in continuity of john paul ii. they were both men of the council. they were at vatican 2 and contributed and i think both saw an attempt to interpret vatican 2 properly. i would say that's the major contribution of pope benedict. he wanted to read vatican 2 as a an evangelical council, a council to get the message of the faith out to the wider world and i think in koont knewty with john paul and that's probably the major legacy. >> father, this will kick off sort of the ultimate insider political battle if you will. i can think of nothing less than transparent of the election. it's a cardinal sin to discuss it an they're told i guess going to hell to talk about what happens in that room. >> wow. >> i wonder if you could just take for sort of the laymen and women out there for the process. what is going to unfold in the week and months ahead to elect a new pope? >> of course, this is very unusual. we are not dealing with the death of a pope followed by a period of mourning and a number offer is moans and masses that
>> well, i think he sees the papacy very much in continuity of john paul ii. they were both men of the council. they were at vatican 2 and contributed and i think both saw an attempt to interpret vatican 2 properly. i would say that's the major contribution of pope benedict. he wanted to read vatican 2 as a an evangelical council, a council to get the message of the faith out to the wider world and i think in koont knewty with john paul and that's probably the major legacy. >>...
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he was very close to john paul ii. even spoke when john paul ii it was ill, that it is possible a pope can resign if they feel they can no longer do their job adequately. this is a man who knew he said that realizes his own diminishment. he said, you know what? i have to step up to do what i say was possible for me. bill: could not be more of contrast between the two popes. i said this last hour, i thought pope john paul ii stayed in the job very end because he wanted people to see him in the human condition and earthen vessel and you have the job to take care of even people like me. >> that's true. bill: even though i'm the pope. >> some catholics looked at it, gee, we have a feeble man who is diminishing the head of our worldwide church is he really up to snuff to do it? i think there was some concern. yeah, it was a beautiful image spiritually of somebody in their decline saying, but look at me, as an example. but you want someone who can administrate a worldwide church. bill: understood. pope benedict made that qui
he was very close to john paul ii. even spoke when john paul ii it was ill, that it is possible a pope can resign if they feel they can no longer do their job adequately. this is a man who knew he said that realizes his own diminishment. he said, you know what? i have to step up to do what i say was possible for me. bill: could not be more of contrast between the two popes. i said this last hour, i thought pope john paul ii stayed in the job very end because he wanted people to see him in the...
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he says ratsinger did not act until receiving order from pope john paul ii. >> he was not able to do much. john paul ii tended to be more skeptical about all accusations of sex abuse he says when benedict was elected in 2005, he was more willing to take action against these priests and make it more public. lennon arks bused when he was 13 says he popes a -- hopes a new pope will bring accountability to the catholic church. >> i can only hope it's an opportunity for the church to demonstrate a moral authority as open qlos yosed to being in the done jen of it's vile corruption that, i believe sit now. >> and by the way this cost the catholic church more than $2 billion in settlements. >> thank you very much. book makers are already putting odds on the next pope with cardinals from gauna, nigeria and canada from early favorites. canadian cardinal has 7-2 odds. and nigerian cardinal has nine to two odds. yim hill has a similar split. >> one clergiman plans on voting for the next pope though he is banned from public duties. cardinal roger mahony used to have the archdiocese of los angeles
he says ratsinger did not act until receiving order from pope john paul ii. >> he was not able to do much. john paul ii tended to be more skeptical about all accusations of sex abuse he says when benedict was elected in 2005, he was more willing to take action against these priests and make it more public. lennon arks bused when he was 13 says he popes a -- hopes a new pope will bring accountability to the catholic church. >> i can only hope it's an opportunity for the church to...
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they would ask about that, especially, like you mentioned in the days of blessed john paul ii. was it a probability, no. but now, the ice might be broken. and in the future, it might become not as startling. >> what happens when you have a former pope? >> i'm wondering myself. i'm wondering. we haven't been through this in 600 years. so, i think he's going -- let me get to my books, let me get back to my piano. he's going to be saying. let me concentrate on my writing. he's probably going to relish the transition. >> would you like to see an african? would you like to see a south american? >> yes. and i think those are very probable. to think that maybe, maybe the college of card nainals feel th holy spirit is directing them to choose from somewhere else, i think so. >> what are the odds of a north american? and you were asked, what about you? >> is this abc news or comedy central? you are -- >> what would you like to see this next pope be and do in order to be as inclusive as possible of the american church and the american views on these social issues? >> sure. >> there has t
they would ask about that, especially, like you mentioned in the days of blessed john paul ii. was it a probability, no. but now, the ice might be broken. and in the future, it might become not as startling. >> what happens when you have a former pope? >> i'm wondering myself. i'm wondering. we haven't been through this in 600 years. so, i think he's going -- let me get to my books, let me get back to my piano. he's going to be saying. let me concentrate on my writing. he's probably...
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paul ii. i think that john paul ii at the end of his life gave a great christian witness, invited people to experience what the church means by the pascal mystery of the life and death of christ and invited people into his own suffering that ennobled all suffering. pope benedict the xvith is a man of conscious. if you read the statement that he made today at the consistery he said he prayed over this and he had come to the view that he could no longer give the church the service it required and tlf as may 28th, at 8:00 p.m., the seat is to be vacated and that means that the college of cardinals should proceed to elect a new pope. as claudio said a moment ago, it is a surprise as to timing but not a surprise to fact. benedict xvith on several occasions and most recently in the book "light of the world" indicated if he ever came to the conscientious view that he couldn't give the church what the church deserved, then he would step out of the way. this is a man of real humility here, we have to s
paul ii. i think that john paul ii at the end of his life gave a great christian witness, invited people to experience what the church means by the pascal mystery of the life and death of christ and invited people into his own suffering that ennobled all suffering. pope benedict the xvith is a man of conscious. if you read the statement that he made today at the consistery he said he prayed over this and he had come to the view that he could no longer give the church the service it required and...
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he took over after the death of pope john paul ii. will turn 86 in april, so he is getting a little older. we expect a news conference will vatican in just a moments. we are waiting for more of information. they are setting the stage now conference to elect a pope before the end of march. whens just about the time world willround the easter.rating we do hope to get more information in a couple minutes breaking news story from rome.as in back to you. thank you so much. has made his mark, into social media with twitter accounts. he personally tweeted over the few months. a lot of questions with not many answers yet, but we hope to hear from the vatican. everything that's being latin and isin being translated. we will share it with you when it.et >> there's no clear successor. when pope benedict was installed pope, he was a leading contender. as of now, they don't know who be.next one will >> the vatican pledges they will work very quickly to make sure elected.a successor not surprisingly, las vegas and taking gambling the successor who
he took over after the death of pope john paul ii. will turn 86 in april, so he is getting a little older. we expect a news conference will vatican in just a moments. we are waiting for more of information. they are setting the stage now conference to elect a pope before the end of march. whens just about the time world willround the easter.rating we do hope to get more information in a couple minutes breaking news story from rome.as in back to you. thank you so much. has made his mark, into...
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he became pope after john paul ii died, but he never seemed to enjoy it the way john paul ii did, who was an actor. benedict is a scholar, a theologian, an intellectual, and today you could see the humility that those who know him very well say have always marked this 85-year-old man. >> certainly describing himself as a pilgrim is really extraordinary, and you get the feeling that the crowd, the audiences were responding to him in an emotional way that they hadn't previously. that i guess it's the moment the history, but also the sadness. i mean, this is a very bittersweet moment. >> well, it's -- it is. that's exactly the way to describe it. you know, it's interesting in st. peters square, they had the big jumbotrons out there, and people were gathered around and were actually silent in st. peters square watching what happened, and the last time i heard that kind of silence in st. peters square it was when they announced the death of john paul ii. you never heard a cell phone go off. you never heard anybody have a cell phone conversation, and on the in st. peters square where the he
he became pope after john paul ii died, but he never seemed to enjoy it the way john paul ii did, who was an actor. benedict is a scholar, a theologian, an intellectual, and today you could see the humility that those who know him very well say have always marked this 85-year-old man. >> certainly describing himself as a pilgrim is really extraordinary, and you get the feeling that the crowd, the audiences were responding to him in an emotional way that they hadn't previously. that i...
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john paul ii took wonderful walks here. benedict xvi i'm told is a much, much more private man, expected to spend a long time in his rooms here. he'll be here for about two months while they restore his home at the vatican where he will eventually spend the rest of his life. guys? >> all right, becky anderson, thank you very much. we'll check back in with you. >>> here to help us walk through today is monsignor rick hi hillgartner. i wanted to walk through what is going to happen today when the pope meets with the cardinals. can you walk us through that? >> sure. >> yesterday in st. peter's square there were upwards of 50,000 people or more giving that public witness. this will be the most with his closest collaborators over the years. the pope's personal collaborators are the bishops throughout the world and in a particular way it's the cardinals standing at the heart of those, many of the cardinals of the people who workday to day in the vatican who work with the pope on a regular basis. who see him week in, week out. the
john paul ii took wonderful walks here. benedict xvi i'm told is a much, much more private man, expected to spend a long time in his rooms here. he'll be here for about two months while they restore his home at the vatican where he will eventually spend the rest of his life. guys? >> all right, becky anderson, thank you very much. we'll check back in with you. >>> here to help us walk through today is monsignor rick hi hillgartner. i wanted to walk through what is going to happen...
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paul ii. this is a man who throughout his life has drown huge crowds, people just want to be near him. i think in his time of death, really, his final days and hours, people want to come here to support him. we extend our sympathies at the loss of your good friend, pope john paul ii has died at the age of 84. the third longest serving pope in catholic church history. on the second day of the first conclave of the 21st century, the bell is tolling. the smoke is white. we have a new pope. there is not a person who is in that crowd of thousands of people in st. peter's square who is going to move. in fact, from our vantage point, we can see people streaming in to st. peter's square. they are coming from out of vatican offices. they are coming down from the main avenue that leads on to the square. and now the question is, who will be the new pope? and here comes the announcement of the new pope. let's listen. at the has taken the name of benedict. joseph, 78 years old. he just had a birthday. he j
paul ii. this is a man who throughout his life has drown huge crowds, people just want to be near him. i think in his time of death, really, his final days and hours, people want to come here to support him. we extend our sympathies at the loss of your good friend, pope john paul ii has died at the age of 84. the third longest serving pope in catholic church history. on the second day of the first conclave of the 21st century, the bell is tolling. the smoke is white. we have a new pope. there...
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paul ii. also with us father john walk, a professor at the university here in rome. good to see both of you. they are not supposed to po politic, but this is one of the most. blatant statements i have ever heard from a cardinal. what's going on? >> it would be strange if we were not thinking about who should be the next pope. pope benedict himself this morning asked us to pray for his successor. >> but to come out and say, kind of, i'd like to do it. >> it's a little odd, i agree. ardales in the conclave really should not be talking about the actual conclave itself. however, i think looking at the past two popes, two great surprises and two great popes. the race, we call it a race, is wide open. but ultimately, chris, we believe as roman catholics the holy spirit will make the final choice. you go in a pope and come out a cardinal. >> it's not always good to be the front runner. father, we do know that the cardinals have openly been talking about discussions in phone and person. i saw a huge n
paul ii. also with us father john walk, a professor at the university here in rome. good to see both of you. they are not supposed to po politic, but this is one of the most. blatant statements i have ever heard from a cardinal. what's going on? >> it would be strange if we were not thinking about who should be the next pope. pope benedict himself this morning asked us to pray for his successor. >> but to come out and say, kind of, i'd like to do it. >> it's a little odd, i...
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john paul ii was the pope of de television and the traveling pope. pope benedict xvi has been called the pope of the internet. the pope of the rich in word. his teachings are so simple yet profound. i would encourage people just to read what he has written himself. he has a marvelous series on jesus of nazareth three books in a 3 part series. just very simple and yet very profound. what do congress look for? i asked that of cardinal dolan yesterday. his response was weatherman knee things are kneaded, many, many things, one of the first priorities of the cardinal he believes will be to find somebody who can give the new impetus to the church and strength and vigor and preaching president gospel of jesus with happiness and with conviction. and conviction not only of his own but being able to give conventioning reasons -- convincing reasons to the world no doubt the papacy is a different office or role than it was in the past because of communication. to have a pope who can communicate with that conviction to a world i believe is starving for real reas
john paul ii was the pope of de television and the traveling pope. pope benedict xvi has been called the pope of the internet. the pope of the rich in word. his teachings are so simple yet profound. i would encourage people just to read what he has written himself. he has a marvelous series on jesus of nazareth three books in a 3 part series. just very simple and yet very profound. what do congress look for? i asked that of cardinal dolan yesterday. his response was weatherman knee things are...
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we saw pope john paul ii give the last great priestly example of his life by, in a sense, inviting the whole world, also during lent that year, to enter with him into the mystery of suffering transformed by faith, and we saw the result of that and this extraordinary outpouring of people who doubled the size of the city of rome for his funeral. this is different. this is a man leaving office while still alive. there's no funeral to put a period on the end of the pontificate. we are in completely uncharted waters. we talk about this not having happened in 600 years or 700 years. in fact, under these circumstances, a man in reasonably good health with his faculties intact, has never done this before. so for a church that lives by tradition, lives by a sense of we've been here before, this is quite different indeed. no one really knows what the effects of this will be. i don't have the slightest doubt that for benedict xvi, this was a final act of self abasement, humility. he really didn't think he could give the church what it needed, and that should be honored. the results of this, given
we saw pope john paul ii give the last great priestly example of his life by, in a sense, inviting the whole world, also during lent that year, to enter with him into the mystery of suffering transformed by faith, and we saw the result of that and this extraordinary outpouring of people who doubled the size of the city of rome for his funeral. this is different. this is a man leaving office while still alive. there's no funeral to put a period on the end of the pontificate. we are in completely...
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paul the ii. still heartfelt by his devotees. >> all the cardinals are there. >> they are pretty much all here and they have had the time to gather because of his resignation which was announced a couple of weeks ago. the first formal meeting will happen on monday. only then will they decide what day to establish the conclaf and then they will start their secret deliberations. we are told around the 9th, 10th, 11th of march. >> all week we have been focusing on the controversy in cardinal mahoney's role in electing of the new pope. he has been stripped after thousands of pages revealed his role in shielding priests from justice. the nauseating story from 360's gary tuckman. >> reporter: the first time is when he helped bring them to the ashch diocese of los angeles. the ashch bishop of mexico city wanted him gone because of his quote homosexual problem. those are the allegations of lawyers who questioned him in a deposition. allegations that he has denied. lay lawyers say even with that knowledge
paul the ii. still heartfelt by his devotees. >> all the cardinals are there. >> they are pretty much all here and they have had the time to gather because of his resignation which was announced a couple of weeks ago. the first formal meeting will happen on monday. only then will they decide what day to establish the conclaf and then they will start their secret deliberations. we are told around the 9th, 10th, 11th of march. >> all week we have been focusing on the controversy...
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john paul ii had a great impact on the church. in some ways the most important figure of the 20th century. it was because his youth and energy permitted him to be pope for such a long time. it would be a good thing. on the other hand , it's a really big job. think of being the president only on steroids and the number of people you have to be concerned with. so it takes a lot of wisdom and experience to do that well. >> well, we thank you for your insight this morning, sir. we appreciate it. john garvey, president of catholic university joining us on the phone. we'll talk to you in the days ahead. >> thank you, tony and allison. >> pope benedict xvi has announced this morning he will be stepping down. he will resign his position affective february 28th. >> all right. we of course will be following that throughout the morning. big breaking news there. >>> in the meantime, have we forgotten the big story to the north? >> i have a relative up in boston. she hasn't had power since friday. 30 inches of snow on the ground. >> that's the
john paul ii had a great impact on the church. in some ways the most important figure of the 20th century. it was because his youth and energy permitted him to be pope for such a long time. it would be a good thing. on the other hand , it's a really big job. think of being the president only on steroids and the number of people you have to be concerned with. so it takes a lot of wisdom and experience to do that well. >> well, we thank you for your insight this morning, sir. we appreciate...
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paul ii. his papacy has been marked by controversy. the pope criticized for how he handled the situation in his prior jobs when he was archbishop in germany and later a top vatican official. on a visit to america in 2008, he became the first pope to meet with the victims themselves. on a lighter note, benedict has become known as his personal idiosyncracies like his bright red shoes. he's been using a moveable platform to carry him down the aisle of st. peters basilica. this morning after he made his announcement, he was helped down from his chair. while this is a surprise the pope has said in the past that he reserved the right to resign if he felt too old to perform his duties. what's next? he still hopes to serve the church through a life dedicated to prayer. elizabeth, back to you. >> greg, good morning to you. lot of people really surprised by the announcement this morning. some cardinals in the audience didn't understand what pope benedict was saying? >> that's also true. one of those oc
paul ii. his papacy has been marked by controversy. the pope criticized for how he handled the situation in his prior jobs when he was archbishop in germany and later a top vatican official. on a visit to america in 2008, he became the first pope to meet with the victims themselves. on a lighter note, benedict has become known as his personal idiosyncracies like his bright red shoes. he's been using a moveable platform to carry him down the aisle of st. peters basilica. this morning after he...
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i think we would be looking for vigorous and dynamic leadership, perhaps in the mold of john paul ii. >> archbishop of milan, the archbishop of vienna, gmt enoa, italy, two vatican cardinals in the mix, do you agree with the monsignor about the qualities of what needs to be considered as we look to who would take benedict's place? >> yes, i think the monsignor is absolutely -- as somebody who has studied this, the church has become quite diverse. while there's been a decline of things catholic in places like the united states, that is not the case in places like africa, latin, central america, central mexico. the activity has quite energized, so make a prediction that you'll see a greater voice of those communities, nigeria, brazil, mexico, because the catholic church and the conclave in particular has become more diversified over the years. don't forget john paul ii was the first known italian in 453 years, nobody ever believed that, so here we are 2013, and you might see a seismic change again. >> ray flynn, monsignor tom mcsweeny, thank you for joining me. i really appreciate it. >
i think we would be looking for vigorous and dynamic leadership, perhaps in the mold of john paul ii. >> archbishop of milan, the archbishop of vienna, gmt enoa, italy, two vatican cardinals in the mix, do you agree with the monsignor about the qualities of what needs to be considered as we look to who would take benedict's place? >> yes, i think the monsignor is absolutely -- as somebody who has studied this, the church has become quite diverse. while there's been a decline of...
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[laughter] now, the early favorite is the archbishop of milan angelo scola until john paul ii italians held the papacy for 50 0 years. it was the ultimate dynasty like the yankees only with less money. cardinal mark ouelette is a major front runner with one problem: he's a canadian. p.m. saying, i don't think god wants you to use a condom, aye, won't work. who wants a pope with a staff like this. [ laughter ] some are brgt on a third world pope like ghana's peter turkson who would be the first block pope of 1500 years sending a message of inclusion and virtually guaranteeing tyler perry's madea goes to rome. [cheers and applause] hello. hello. [laughter] folks, i say it's high time we had an american pope. [cheers and applause] after all -- [cheers and applause] after all, god is an american. that's why the intiebl in english. [ laughter ] and there's a great candidate. >> timothy dolan is the most powerful catholic in the country, the president of president catholic bisons. >> stephen: even more important dole january my personal bff: bishop friend forever. [cheers and applause] and t
[laughter] now, the early favorite is the archbishop of milan angelo scola until john paul ii italians held the papacy for 50 0 years. it was the ultimate dynasty like the yankees only with less money. cardinal mark ouelette is a major front runner with one problem: he's a canadian. p.m. saying, i don't think god wants you to use a condom, aye, won't work. who wants a pope with a staff like this. [ laughter ] some are brgt on a third world pope like ghana's peter turkson who would be the first...
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every single cardinal in the college was appointed by either pope john paul ii or benedict xvi. there are three under the age of 60. there are a number of them between 60 and 70. there are a lot of young cardinals. nobody can vote if you're over 80. benedict will not be voting. this is a good college. it will continue. it will be in harmony with the two popes that elevated these men. so i don't think there's any question about that or any kind of big surprise that may come out when we see the white smoke. i think it's frankly pretty exciting. >> george weigel, last one. some controversies during this pope's reign. particularly the whole sexual abuse thing which came crashing down on the catholic church. has it healed in your judgment? >> there are certainly places in the church where it hasn't healed yet. ireland comes to mind. certainly parts of our own country where we're still dealing with the afterburn of abuse committed 20, 30, 40 years ago. but this pope was, i think, quite vigorous in his attempts to root out of the church this wickedness. and i am completely confident th
every single cardinal in the college was appointed by either pope john paul ii or benedict xvi. there are three under the age of 60. there are a number of them between 60 and 70. there are a lot of young cardinals. nobody can vote if you're over 80. benedict will not be voting. this is a good college. it will continue. it will be in harmony with the two popes that elevated these men. so i don't think there's any question about that or any kind of big surprise that may come out when we see the...
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ratzinger, was very keenly aware of what happened to pope john paul ii. he talked to people about how his demise seemed somewhat of a dishonorable end to his papacy. he had in his mind already what type of glorious exit, to use the phrase, he may want in store for him. let's get some perspective as to what is coming out of the vatican as to why this is happening, what it means. john allen, our senior vatican analyst, joins us now. what do we know, john? >> reporter: what we know is that we are living through a day of enormous shock here in rome. not so much the pope benedict xvi chose to resign. he signaled two years ago that he would be open to doing that, but the fact that we had absolutely no indication this was coming today. precisely because of that, therefore, there are some enormous unanswered questions about how all of this is going to play out. i suppose the biggest questions would be, "a," what will the role of a retired pope be? will he continue to play any kind of public role? will he continue to exercise any influence on the future direction
ratzinger, was very keenly aware of what happened to pope john paul ii. he talked to people about how his demise seemed somewhat of a dishonorable end to his papacy. he had in his mind already what type of glorious exit, to use the phrase, he may want in store for him. let's get some perspective as to what is coming out of the vatican as to why this is happening, what it means. john allen, our senior vatican analyst, joins us now. what do we know, john? >> reporter: what we know is that...
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you know john paul ii's greatest gift was his serenity in suffering. that was the greatest pulpit he ever prepared from. i believe humility is the greatest pulpit that benedict xvi has prepared from. he said to me once benedict things done with humility have the lasting effect have the greatest lasting effect. i believe he knows that in his heart. a courageous, novel decision but he's taken it also strategically in order that we are given a good pope to lead us now into the future. it's a sad moment for us but we now look forward to a new holy father. >> monseigneur anthony figuerdo director of the north american pontifical college. thank you very much, monseigneur. it is coming up on 6:00 p.m. in rome. we saw a beautiful shot of the sun setting in castel gandolfo. we see the long shadows of the early evening coming across st. peter's square. nor norah, i wonder as you watched this for the first time in 600 years, it was an amazing moment in history, what did you think as you thought of this pope leaving the papacy. >> incredibly historic. it was a sho
you know john paul ii's greatest gift was his serenity in suffering. that was the greatest pulpit he ever prepared from. i believe humility is the greatest pulpit that benedict xvi has prepared from. he said to me once benedict things done with humility have the lasting effect have the greatest lasting effect. i believe he knows that in his heart. a courageous, novel decision but he's taken it also strategically in order that we are given a good pope to lead us now into the future. it's a sad...
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. >> suarez: benedict's actions stood in particular contrast to that of pope john paul ii, his immediate predecessor, who served 27 years, the second longest of any pope. during that tenure, john paul was shot by a would-be assassin and later contracted parkinson's disease. in his last years he struggled to walk, speak, and even listen until his death in 2005. days later, white smoke arose from the chimney of the sistine chapel to signal cardinal joseph ratzinger election. he was at 78 the oldest pope elected in nearly 300 years. the future benedict xvi was born in germany in 1927, an archbishop of munich and then cardinal. for nearly three decades he was one of pope john paul's most trusted aides enforcing conservative doctrine. as pope he warned against growing secularism in the west. it was not always a popular stance in europe and north america as evidenced today. >> the next pope we need somebody who will modernize the church somewhat and move with the times so that they don't lose their audience and all the younger people. >> hopefully the next pope will be eventually a little bit
. >> suarez: benedict's actions stood in particular contrast to that of pope john paul ii, his immediate predecessor, who served 27 years, the second longest of any pope. during that tenure, john paul was shot by a would-be assassin and later contracted parkinson's disease. in his last years he struggled to walk, speak, and even listen until his death in 2005. days later, white smoke arose from the chimney of the sistine chapel to signal cardinal joseph ratzinger election. he was at 78...